EII domain

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Type domains
Alpha Quadra:	ILE	SEI	ESE	LII
Beta Quadra:	EIE	LSI	SLE	IEI
Gamma Quadra:	SEE	ILI	LIE	ESI
Delta Quadra:	LSE	EII	IEE	SLI

In Our Club

The Humanists are a peaceful lot. Frequently we will go out of our way to help you. If you are a loved one, then the boundaries of this help are even more limitless. The happiness of others weighs heavily upon the shoulders of people of this type, a prime concern for cert. Introspective and prone to wild imaginings, they might not always seem like they're "all there" but odds are they are thinking of something interesting. Ask us! We might even let you in on the secret world of our inner life. Very generally good people all around, but let's not lose sight of the 'dark side' of the EII, those that follow the worst impulses of our type! Still, plumb the depths of our souls and, so long as it's gentle and sincere, you might just win a friend to last a lifetime!

Overview of Model A

1. Base (Fi)

-relationships between people -evaluating people: personality and character traits, their deeds and conduct -evaluating the motives behind behavior -empathy; the ability to feel what others feel and understand their motives -describing relationships between people as a constant factor

Nothing is more important to an EII than forming and maintaining deep, personal relationships with people; our lives revolve around these relationships. allows us to know quickly and accurately what other people feeling and size up the nature of relationships and the moral character of individuals. We are extremely sensitive to others' emotions, and do everything in our power to prevent and alleviate negative emotions where we can. EIIs are empathic (we feel what others feel) and strive to keep others in a state where they are at emotional ease. We know where our relationships stand and where they could go. Most importantly, we know where we would like our relationships to be. causes us to aim for ideal interaction. If the future of a relationship looks promising, (which it often does in our eyes since we are inclined to see potential) we are willing to forgive almost anything as a mere slight, provided we care enough about the relationship. Often we blame ourselves for difficulties that arise in relationships even if the cause of the trouble has little to do with us. We always think, “I could have said this” or “If only I had known this, than this wouldn't have happened.” EIIs often hold themselves to unreachable standards when it comes to interaction.

EIIs are very, very sensitive people. Even if we are emotionally crushed, we probably won't tell the offender immediately because we don't want to create conflict. We will either address the issue later and smooth it over or, if we've really been offended, ignore the offender until they realize the pain they've caused us and apologize. I must mention, however, that bad relationships are never shunned. On the contrary, EIIs view them as something to work with, and if they can't be made positive, at the very least, they are something to learn from to improve future relationships.

However, there is a dark side to base : EIIs define our sense of self-worth by the way others react to us. In short, if we're getting “bad vibes” from people (which is unlikely because we work very hard to ensure that you are loved, and so, love us) our self esteem plummets. This is why we respond to you with whatever would make you happy. Your happiness is literally our happiness. We often have trouble telling people we care about “no” because we take every opportunity to ensure that we can be their epitome of love and support.

Because EIIs are so perceptive of everyone's unique emotional states and responses, our mode of interaction is different with different people. This can trap us into thinking sometimes that we're being “fake,” when in reality we're merely adapting to the emotional needs of the people around us. Group situations (discussed more in the section on ) are vastly different than one-on-one situations, and every situation varies depending on who it is we're dealing with. A normally subdued EII can become quite animated in certain group situations which call for . This can lead to others (and the EII him/herself) to think that the EII is being “fake.”

I have had some fun comparing blocked with and blocked with that one sees in ESIs. I find that an EII's expression of is far broader, and I'll even say more inclusive than one can see it manifesting when blocked with . Every EII I know is extremely interested in humanitarian goals and making the world a better place by fostering the right kinds of relationships, ones where the poor and hungry and sick are cared for and where people come before politics and dividing lines. ESIs seem much more concerned with their own microcosm. They care intensely about the people in their lives and work hard to make sure that they are practically cared for. The of an EII is far more abstract. What's important to us is the intention and the underlying emotion. Our is also less absolutist, but more on that in the section on .

2. Creative (Ne)

-using or failing to use opportunities that arise (who was "lucky" and who wasn't) -talent; talented people -unique events, fostering interest -cases (e.g. strange cases); tales; abstract stories with a "meaning" -change and changing styles -indicating the time context; time intervals/jumps -indicating speed, periodicity, and duration -variants of situations; assessing and realizing possibilities -insight, paradox -matching and coincidence -the essence of things; grasping the main point

Ideas! Potential! Curiosity! Talent! Possibilities! Hidden meaning! EIIs drink this stuff up. We love to talk about situations and topics similar to the one in question before moving on to what is “actually” being addressed. We want to provide an outline before we proceed to the specific details. Some of my Sensing-inclined friends get really annoyed with this. I often hear, “This is different though” or “That's not what I'm asking.” They can even get very frustrated with the fact that (according to them) we never seem to be able to really define concisely just what it is we're talking about and give a definite conclusion. But conclusions and practicality aren't important to – it's the interesting and endless stream of ideas. Just give us some time and I promise we'll reach some end (even if you can't follow us there), and with understanding. It may seem like what we're talking about is completely unrelated, but there are all kinds of important hidden connections that give us a great understanding of the situation and how it will play out. Just because not everyone can see them, doesn't mean they're not there! ;)

EIIs love talking about ideal circumstances (especially in regard to our relationships) and what could be or what might happen instead of what is going on right in front of us. Unlike leading types however, we only apply it to ideas that are personally important to us instead of pursuing the idea for its own sake. We also believe, unlike leading types, that people should strive toward certain (mostly ethical) ideals. Yes, everyone is interesting and has something to offer, but more than just taking them “as they are,” EIIs think they should at least have an active desire for personal growth. Naturally, we believe we are able to help others reach their fullest potential – not because we think we are amazing and at some pinnacle of human development, but because we think everyone should want to be a better person and hence, make the world a better place. And why not, right? The problem about wanting to be perfect is that ideals are concepts of perfection that are, by their nature, difficult to actualize. Still, EIIs will work tirelessly and berate ourselves when we fail to achieve our ideals. We are extremely self-critical in every aspect of our lives that we think we should be adept in.

EIIs also enjoy “bridging social gaps,” as I like to call it. We want one group of friends to meet the other group. And we want them to meet our family too! We're very optimistic about the possibilities of the people we love loving one another. To contrast, an ESI would be more inclined to worry that his or her disparate groups would hate each other and that trying to bring them together would be disastrous. Our allows us to see the bright potentials in the people we know, whom we pride ourselves in knowing intimately. We are not limited to observing interaction as it happens, like people with strong Sensing preferences, and worrying because we don't know if everyone will get along. EIIs also want people to be interested in what we're interested in. We throw things out there and see if others will “take the bait.” If they don't want it, we'll try other things. Eventually, we can become discouraged if there is no response. It's important to us that people be interested in what we're contributing, not in a “look at me” kind of way, but in a “I really want to stimulate this person” sort of way. We can generate all sorts of ideas, and have vast and vivid imaginations that we want to make you go “Wow!” If you aren't impressed with our world, we can feel hurt and worthless.

EIIs can follow through with projects as long as they bear our interest. In fact, we intend to eventually finish and perfect all of them that we deem worthy. When something new catches our interest and rises to the top of our priorities, we can abandon something and neglect it until it needs attention and our interest is renewed. Of course, if it's something we are expected to do, we are going to do it and with everything we've got... unless we really, really don't want to. As diligent as we try to be and usually are, it's easy to put off that one thing we've been dreading until the last minute, especially if we're not sure where to start.

The best part about ? As our creative function, it is the means with which we feel what you feel. We express and use our with . More often than not, we know why you feel what you feel and how to work you through it and make it better – help you reach your ideal emotional state. That's why we're called the Counselor or the Empath. :) allows us to understand people at their core. People's intentions are more important than their actions to us, because we often have a direct view of those intentions, and so it's easy for us to draw more buckets out of our deep wells of compassion and sympathy. goes further than just people, too. Music, poetry, and all kinds of art can illicit strong inner emotional responses from us. Often I will find myself moved to tears by witnessing something that reminds me of something deeply personal in my life. EIIs love metaphors and use them in everyday speech. We love symbolism, and see hidden meaning in everything – from our dreams to they way someone looks at us.

3. Role (Ti)

-certain fields of scientific knowledge: geometry, formal logic, scientific classifications and systematizations -cartography; architecture -organizing formal structures; defining work duties -analytical activities of any kind -interaction with formal structures -expressing thoughts -constructions of correspondence that reflect the train of thought (logical connectors) -issues related to reflecting thought processes; clarifying one's position -evaluating mental capabilities -describing spatial relationships and how objects are situated in relation to each other -social boundaries determined by agreement -"geometry" in the figurative sense -constructions of comparison

I think Ne flows so readily into that we are not as cut off from our 3rd function as some other types are.

A good example of an EII using his/her is when he/she is suddenly called upon to logically defend a personal view or decision. , as best as I can define it, is all about how one fact logically makes sense given another fact. So we begin, trying in vain to support our view with logic. The problem, however, is that our views have been carefully honed and selected with and determined to be ethically sound by . I'll say it again: ethically sound. They “make sense” to us ethically. We may even be inclined to see them, at their roots, as universal and greater than ourselves. They stem from our ideals; they are projections of who we are and who we want to be, and when someone says, “So... why do you believe that?” we are glad to share our unique worldview, but not when we are suddenly forced to back up what we think with anything other than “It's just the right thing to do” or some similar statement. Inevitably, the probing LSI in question points out a logical “hole” (which is completely irrelevant to us, because to us it's a question of ethics and potential, not logic and practicality) and we feel defenseless and under attack. An EII will then either revert to his or her ethical motivation (which the Logical type does not see as validating the claim) or drop the conversation in an effort to keep the peace, leaving the Logical type dissatisfied and wondering why the EII got so flustered. Not everything can be subjected to the confines of logic. Such a world, in an EII's eyes, would be devoid of life, color, and soul. When it comes down to it, people are far more important to us than systems of facts.

Comparing and , EIIs definitely prefer the latter. To us, is direct, useful, applicable, practical – things we wish we could be. can be fun to think about sometimes, but it seems incapable of producing anything remotely as interesting as things we gather with our . EIIs aspire to be concise and logical, but have little interest in sitting around entertaining thoughts about how if x + y = z how z would be different if y was changed to f and what that shows us. We're much more interested in why one would want to change y to f and only if it affects our lives or ideas. EIIs value orderliness and structure highly, but never at the expense of people's feelings.

4. Vulnerable (Se)

-visual perception of objects -constant physical traits of objects -space (as in location) -desires and their fulfillment -manipulating objects (in both the literal and figurative sense) -power and energy -analyzing situations of conflict -needs: who doesn't have enough of what, who has or has acquired what (with a demonstration)

will manifest in roughly two ways in an EII: The first is our virtual obliviousness to our surroundings. Although we tend to be very organized people and feel like our thoughts are fairly organized too, they are quick to leap from one subject to another thanks to , and we often feel overwhelmed by the sheer amount of information running through our minds. EIIs have a tendency to “space out.” We will leave personal belongings in places and fail to notice changes in our environment. We are frequently lost in our own thoughts and can tune out external reality, even in the middle of something like driving or a conversation. This has the potential of causing major problems. More than once I have had to ask someone, “I'm sorry, what were you saying?” only to have them become frustrated at having to repeat themselves and then assuming that I just don't care about what they have to say, which is usually a grossly incorrect assumption. Personally, I have to sort of shift my focus in order to take in stuff going on around me, but it's not long until something I see propels me into thought and I am lost again. I also have a hard time with directions, so getting physically lost is not a difficult feat either. I also don't feel a need to maintain eye contact with people – I can listen and know what they're saying and its emotional context without measuring all their body language and facial expression. Of course, that varies from situation to situation. In any case, I would like to let everyone out there know that it's not because we don't value what you have to say and you shouldn't take it personally. I am being honest when I say that I always mean well – always. Sometimes, negative emotions (mostly anger, not sadness) given off by someone are so strong that I can't bear to look at them.

The second manifestation of our PoLR is a complete aversion to force, aggression, conflict, violence, competition, and the whole idea of bending people and situations to get what one wants. This is where you get the “overly sensitive” aspect of our personalities. If someone says something in a way that is remotely confrontational, we retreat. If someone really wants to argue, we fall silent. If people are fighting, we will either try to settle the disagreement, get up and leave, or both. We will not “intrude on others' space,” whether physically or psychologically. We are virtually incapable of making anyone do anything or refusing a request. No matter how badly we may want something, if you flatly refuse, we are likely to back down, at least after a short while. EIIs do not make things happen – we prefer to wait for them to happen or let someone else take the lead. In those rare occasions where we try to be forceful, we become extremely uncomfortable and vulnerable. It's terrifying. We want everyone to get along, to share their thoughts in an accepting and peaceful discourse. We want everyone to “win” and leave unscarred, and since that seldom happens in an environment, we avoid such environments.

People with strong are able to weigh out how much “force” is being applied and to what effect. EIIs simply cannot do this. We interpret most forms of criticism as personal assaults on our character which are meant to demonstrate a disapproval of some integral part of our self-concept. We sometimes have trouble differentiating between a sarcastic jab and an insult because we are inclined to think that even negative comments directed toward someone as a joke are still implying some kind of honest criticism underneath the supposed lightheartedness. In short, we can take lots of things personally unless given some kind of clear signal (spoken or otherwise) that we aren't actually being attacked.

5. Suggestive (Te)

-optimizing actions and processes -correct actions in various situations -clarifying information -perfecting old and inventing new methods and forms of activity -new constructive applications of objects in a concrete situation -exact knowledge -objective phenomena and laws -objects' dynamics; controlled processes

6. Mobilizing (Si)

-information received through the senses and from one's one body: sensations -concreticizing sensations by location -poses; changing poses -needs and their satisfaction (food, sex, cleanliness) -physical characteristics -one's habitat (decoration, clothing)

Does anyone else happen to think that saying we secretly want to be healthy (refer to Sergei Gainin's article on Hidden Agendas on socionics.com) refers more to our mental and spiritual selves? As in, they are saying we might be not the whole picnic basket? However, physical health is good too, for me. I would say that I have a strong need to fully integrate mental, physical, emotional and spiritual health. Perhaps the desire to be healthy is a matter of all of those components coming together to form a perfect whole person. However, I would definitely say that matters of physical health concern me greatly. I am often learning everything I can about healthy living but failing to implement it. I really feel like I need someone to help me take care of myself, remind me to take care of myself, and to help me realize when physical problems are causing problems in other domains. I currently have someone in my life (SEI) who helps me connect my life problems with potential health issues, and I really appreciate it. I just get so frustrated when my health or my environment keep me from fulfilling my potential.

7. Ignoring (Fe)

-evoking emotional reactions in others -changing and creating any kind of emotional atmosphere and any kind of nuances in communication -strong emotions and impressions -describing external, observable manifestations of emotions -spectacles -describing audible behavior and imitating sounds -situational word creation to convey shades of emotion -expressive interjections and exclamations

8. Demonstrative (Ni)

-discussing processes and imagery, associations, recollections -foresight or anticipation -interconnectedness of objects and processes -change, style -time and speed -the immaterial part of the world within us -memory, uncertainty

Being Led Around by (Fi)

Dear Co-inhabitant of Planet Earth,

You were asking about what it's like to be EII. Well, when you see the world through -colored glasses, you are always aware of people around you, how they are feeling and responding to things and other people in the environment. Since the dominant function is "static", this probably means that it is the primary aspect by which we define the reality around us. So defining the world according to an individual's emotions and reactions means we are very aware that different people want to be treated differently; we instinctively know the stuff in the personality style charts (which we love to study).

This has all the wonderful, uplifting potential that the technical descriptions talk about, but there's a downside, too. We consequently define ourselves by the way others react to us. So -dominant types are likely to have the lowest self-esteem in the socion. We will respond to you according to the rules of your reality: that makes you happy, keeps the environment peaceful & good, and keeps me safest. But we keep our inner lives secret.

It's like having a hobbit burrow or a Solarian homestead. Inside we have a labyrinth of tunnels, storerooms, portals to anywhere in the Universe we wish to explore -- we have access to it all (excepting, of course, anything to do with high ). We only invite you into carefully selected corridors and living quarters of our dwellings; almost nobody gets to see it all.

This inner world is the only place big enough for to live and breathe. Inside this world we are always strong, successful, admired, sought out because the things we fill this world with are so amazingly and magnificently interesting. But somehow, when we let others in and are therefore forced to see it through their eyes it looks so colorless and...ordinary...somehow. Outright scorn is worse.

Thinking of how to start creating this page was making me very nervous (definitely raised the anxiety level!) until I realized it was because I was about to break this cardinal rule of EIIs. For example, look at what I'm creating here. Long-winded paragraphs about personal feelings. I think prose is our native language. Do you think I don't know that if I keep on in this vein we will have the most boring domain page on the website?!? This type of expression is worse than obscenities, profanities, & vulgarities to some types. (I won't name names!!) Truth is, I find myself hating it,too. It seems like...the most boring, unlikeable way to set up a domain page. I should do the world a favor & just can it! But what I'm seeing via Socionics for the first time is that it could well be because I let the reactions of certain people (experienced repeatedly & consistently) define for me as bad what is my instinctive mode of expression.

Well, more later. I'm going to go figure out how to do something besides prose (but no promises!) I think I'll go hang out on one of the Researcher Club's domain pages (anonymously, of course). Love ya!

Will the 'Real Me' please stand up?

I'm not sure what was supposed to go here, but I have some things to say about this question. I hate when I feel like I am not being myself but I also am not sure who I am when it's just me. I am crazy and imaginative and even somewhat ambitious when I'm alone. I get a lot done when I'm by myself. But when I am around other people I have such a strong need to adapt to what they need from me and to become the person they need me to be in order to help them reach their fullest potential. I hate playing mind games and there are times when I'll forego all of the niceties and just be upfront about how I feel. However, there are so many times when this ends up causing problems and conflict. Since it's hard for me to hide my values, I find it easier to just stay away from people if there is a values conflict happening. I love being around people who don't expect any gamesmanship. I hate manipulative charmers and since I am no good at charming people on purpose, I feel they take unfair advantage. I can always tell when people are lying and it disgusts me, but I am very aware of the fact that I so often alter or tone down parts of myself depending on the other person, and this feels like I am lying and being inauthentic.

Intertype Relations

Identity (EII)

Duality (LSE)

Activation / Activity (SLI)

Mirror (IEE)

Kindred / Comparative (ESI)

Semi-duality / Partial duality (LIE)

Business / Look-a-Like / Cooperation (LII)

Mirage / Illusionary (ESE)

Whenever there is one around we seem drawn to each other. It is relatively easy for me to have conversations with them, and I feel sympathetic to them for some reason. I have a lot of good things to say about ESEs and they seem to admire me as well. Beyond having good conversations with ESEs (which can last for hours and cover a wide range of topics), when it comes to actually helping each other with problems I find a part of me just becomes somewhat impatient. I know I get frustrated with their emotionalism, and they get frustrated with my self-centeredness (focusing on my values). At best, we can be good "partners in crime", but at worst, I feel constrained by their judgments and demands and they feel hurt and annoyed by my resistance.

Super-ego (LSI)

Extinguishment / Contrary (EIE)

Quasi-identity (IEI)

Conflict (SLE)

Asymmetric relations:

Benefit / Request

Benefactor (ILI)

Beneficiary (SEI)

Supervision

Supervisor (SEE)

Supervisee (ILE)

Type domains
Alpha Quadra:	ILE	SEI	ESE	LII
Beta Quadra:	EIE	LSI	SLE	IEI
Gamma Quadra:	SEE	ILI	LIE	ESI
Delta Quadra:	LSE	EII	IEE	SLI